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I have been watching some videos on youtube, and have summarized hypnotism to the following three
tactics: Syncronization, Anchoring, Invasion.
I tried this on my daughter (8 months), I syncronized to her position and speed,imitated her as she reached for her toys on the floor, and stole her toy!
How have we all been hypnotized? hmm.... Seemingly beneficial groups like Nike, or McDonalds syncronize to our speed of culture, they then find the latest fashion (using studies etc), and then they take our Toys!!!!
BastardS!~
I have been watching some videos on youtube, and have summarized hypnotism to the following three
tactics: Syncronization, Anchoring, Invasion.
I tried this on my daughter (8 months), I syncronized to her position and speed,imitated her as she reached for her toys on the floor, and stole her toy!
How have we all been hypnotized? hmm.... Seemingly beneficial groups like Nike, or McDonalds syncronize to our speed of culture, they then find the latest fashion (using studies etc), and then they take our Toys!!!!
BastardS!~
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Re: Hypnotism
Tue, January 15, 2008 - 8:20 PMInvasion?
I've been a professional hypnotist for 20-some-odd years and I've never stolen anyone's toys. I have my own, thanks. -
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Wed, January 16, 2008 - 5:57 PMInvasion as in: putting a hand in water, as in: air going through a void. Any particle that moves from one distinct zone into another.
Not bad invasion, just a word.
I humbly ask for some feed back on my simple thesis, as I stated it more as a question to those who know more....
Would you say that culture hypnotizes, without intentions, but sometimes with?
For example, Fnords, or as I read in a Neal Stevenson book: SnowCrash, the Sumerians had secret words that acted as back doors into the masses minds.... -
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Thu, January 17, 2008 - 2:22 PMI think I might read the namshubs that Stephenson talks about more in terms of memetics, or memetic entities - or, if you will, you can think of cultural paradigms or epistemology.
However, culture certainly has a hypnotic quality... but really so does all communication. When we speak or write to each other (or make movies or paintings or whatever), we elicit some internal process in the other. That's essentially all that hypnosis is - the intentional elicitation of naturally-occurring neurological processes. Rapport and anchoring are among those processes - and there are many, many more.
So in terms of changing a cultural paradigm, hypnosis would undoubtedly be a part of that (because communication is involved) - but I wouldn't necessarily say that these are identical.
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Thu, January 17, 2008 - 2:27 PMAha! the Namshubs!
Interesting point about cultural change, via hypnotism. Powerful tools.
But, as I was telling my wife, noticing someone has a tumor at the checkout line, doesn't mean one should grab them and operate right there.
One needs to use the right tools at the right time!
good points. Rapport, that is a better word for syncronization.
I have noticed many televangelist who will hold the hands, or arms etc of the person who comes up to be healed, so they can feel their heart rate, and build a rapport, but also a syncronization? -
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Thu, January 17, 2008 - 3:38 PMYes, televangelists use quite a few Ericksonian-style hypnotic techniques. Some of them are trained in hypnosis. All kinds of things you can do holding someone's hands. I used to teach a mock-seminar called How to be a Megalomaniac in which we would explore the hypnotic technique of televangelists. Some of what they do is pretty scary stuff... some is kinda fun. Everyone should learn how to do Benny Hinn's hands-on healing routine, just to show off at parties. -
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Mon, January 21, 2008 - 8:21 PM<I used to teach a mock-seminar called How to be a Megalomaniac in which we would explore the hypnotic technique of televangelists>
I attended that seminar -- I'm on the video! We had a good time causing body catalepsy using the power of Gee-Zus....
'Cept, sadly, we never did get to the "advanced" practices of removing our consciences so we could more easily fleece would-be aspirants, at which Benny Hinn seems to be quite adept: www.youtube.com/watch -
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Tue, January 22, 2008 - 3:19 PMHinn is a real character. Gotta give him credit for keeping the scam going for so many years when all around him televangelists are taking a tumble.
Some years back while driving through Oregon, I came across a videotape in a junk shop that purported to be footage of Benny Hinn smoking crack. However, when I took it home and watched it, he was merely smoking weed through a nifty little glass pipe.
That has nothing to do with hypnosis except that Hinn has hypnotized his followers to perceive him with both negative and positive hallucinations. -
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Tue, January 22, 2008 - 5:46 PM<Some years back while driving through Oregon, I came across a videotape in a junk shop that purported to be footage of Benny Hinn smoking crack. However, when I took it home and watched it, he was merely smoking weed through a nifty little glass pipe.>
The devil weed! *Shocking*
Maybe weed laws is the way to bring down the Hinn dynasty!
<That has nothing to do with hypnosis except that Hinn has hypnotized his followers to perceive him with both negative and positive hallucinations.>
What fascinates me is how he's managed to induce such a large following, into something as patently absurd as the televangelist gospels. Clearly, he -utilizes- the trance most people are already in for Jesus and the Bible malarkey, which, when combined with slick showmanship and a glitzy marketing campaign, can essentially grab hold of the average mindless 'Christian' by the brain-stem for a financial shakedown.. But wouldn't you think there would be an eventual "blow-back" from people who come to their senses and realize they've been duped? Don't you think these followers get buyer's remorse when the miracles they've paid for don't arrive? Or is that somehow "written in" to the scam?
About a week ago, a video surfaced on the internet of Tom Cruise basically revealing his own mindless devotion to the Church of Scientology. The video was meant for in-church use only, but somehow it was leaked and got a lot of people talking about his apparent lunacy. Yet, aside from the blatant lies and streamlined marketing system, the Church continues to persist (and if you believe the propaganda, even Thrive), long after its psychopathic pulp writer kicked it while in hiding.
How is that this stupidity exists in the first place -- is that people are too lazy to think? And how is that it persists in the face of obvious contradiction -- is the trance that powerful?
I might have speculative answers, but thought I'd try to enliven some of the posting here by stirring up the words a bit. -
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Re: Hypnotism
Wed, January 23, 2008 - 7:29 AMoh wow, let me go home and write a book on this, then reply.
I was brought up with Jimmy Swaggart, Pat Robertson, Mike Warnke, B. Hinn, etc... My dad flew their planes... -
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Sat, January 26, 2008 - 11:44 AMB. Hin ...a guru that preaches the beatitude of sleep walking...and the majesty of falling backwards.
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Sun, February 10, 2008 - 11:22 AMLooking with backward eyes
into the goodnight
Butterfly waking -
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Sun, February 10, 2008 - 12:54 PMJanus, Janus
with Sankofa perched on your mirror'd forehead,
look into my souls and ignite it.
let the sparks of my awakening shine out and spark untold memories of a future flame...
Farfallan' awakenings...
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Mon, February 11, 2008 - 7:39 PM>Seemingly beneficial groups like Nike, or McDonalds...
This is such a curious phrase that I wonder whether YOU are working for these openly unbeneficial groups and trying to hypnotise US by slipping that by into our subconscious brains as you apparently ask about something else! -
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Tue, February 12, 2008 - 7:40 AMMe work for McNike? Hahahahhaha
I worked for Burger King when I was 16…. Got fired for cursing after cutting my finger tip off…. Hahah
I said seemingly from the point of view that many people seem, or feel that they “need” this part of our culture!
You commonly hear phrases like: “I need some running shoes…”
“What this town needs is a walmart, or a lowes….”
I suspect even the owners of these companies think they are doing the world a favor by evangelizing their chains to remote regions of all our planet!
The point is that many people are starting to need them, and couldn’t make a shoe, a rope, or a hand bag to save their lives! -
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Tue, February 12, 2008 - 5:09 PMLucky me! I live in berkleley, ca and never hear those phrases.
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 7:41 AMbecause you already have 6!!!!!
maps.google.com/maps -
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Sat, July 19, 2008 - 11:17 AMSince the basis of hypnosis is suggestion. And suggestion is the way that we learn almost everything! Using suggestions to invite you to eat certain types of food or wear a particular pair brand of shoes is just part of life. Using hypnosis to facilitate a client to a hypnoidal, cataleptic or sonambulistic state is another matter.
As Dr. Erickson states: Each person, models their world uniquely - paraphrase of a longer explanation. And how a person is clinically hypnotized is approached by how they process their model. Some people process their model via the physical. Some emotional. While others process their model intellectually. Approaching a child without understanding how they're processing their model can cause some complications in that child. It is similar to opening up a high voltage control box without understanding electronics.
If you're interested in Hypnotherapy training, you might want to check out: www.hypnosis.edu/
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Tue, August 12, 2008 - 2:02 PMUm, Shadoan, all of those locations are outside of Berkeley. FYI
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Re: Hypnotism
Mon, September 1, 2008 - 8:52 AMNLP has many elements of synchronization
